Friday, May 8, 2009


Lawrence O'Donnell sat in for MSNBC's Ed Schultz and took one of President Bush's Designer Torturers on a ride through the administration's "we-didn't-torture-but-it-was-legal" nonsense.

Specifically, O'Donnell responds to David Rivkin's assertion that he understands what torture is by asking Rivkin if he's ever been in the military or tortured. Rivkin (a former Justice Department official under Bush I) said "No" and fell back on the argument that we did worse to our own military personnel, so what we did during the Bush II administration can't be torture. Conveniently Rivkin leaves out - and leaves it to O'Donnell to point out - that we tortured our own military personnel to prepare them for torture. Rivkin apparently didn't recogize (or ignored) that he's admitting that we tortured.

I assure you, if you're having trouble following this Alice in Wonderland logic, you're not alone. Still, it's fun to watch ...

- Mark

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